The Sins of the Father: Carlton, Saturn, and the Price of Accountability
The Arrogance of Wealth & the Backhand of Daddy Saturn
Saturn In Aries
April 7th 1996- June 9 1998
Discipline and restriction in firey, impulsive, ways or due to immaturely thought out plans.
We answered a question during this time, what lessons have you learned about the balance of relationship, about the I and the WE.
Those answers became the axis we stood on to answer the next questions, about where we are of service and where we sacrifice. We were to be shown the cause an effect of an unbalanced sacrifice - the results of this time reaches completion August 2026.
Saturn in Taurus
Jun 9 1998-August 10 2000
Discipline and restriction related to money, worth, reputation. and material hierarchal arrogance from fear of lack.
Historically, Carlton’s entire corporate identity was built on old money power, boardroom ruthlessness, and the belief that success could be bought on reputation, last names and the cigar smoking old boys club.
During this time John Elliott and all the kings men were sneaking pineapples to the boys under the table assuming that they were safe because of who they were.
Saturn in Gemini
10 August 2000 - June 4th 2003
Boundaries, restrictions, discipline formed by ideas, words, information.
When the AFL introduced the draft and salary cap to to make it more fair for those that didn’t have the cigars to smoke and Carlton bent those rules a little.
“Yeah but dont you know who I am, don’t you know who my dad is”
** puppy dog eyes
(aka manipulative skills off the chain- like all masculine energy Gemini’s )
Gemini also rules communication, data, information leaks, and dual contracts. and so of course he found the information in the sneaky plans. Big Daddy Saturn does not like this rule breaking sneaky shit.
And just like that, I’m taking your dollars and I’m taking your youth.
How the ol’ boys club like them apples?
Saturn in Cancer
June 4 2003 - July 16 2005
Restriction of inner emotional security, care, domestic life, foundations, mother, nurturing.
So Big Daddy Saturn takes away what you used to do the sneaking around, especially if you were aware that you were in fact being a sneak. No kids for a bit, no hidden cash and even your pocket money has to go to those boys you made sneaky promises to, now you will have no one to continue to keep those foundations stable.
Home was not a fun place anymore, it was a toxic home environment.
Saturn in Leo
July 16 2005 - September 2 2007
Discipline and restriction in creative expression, performing, ego, pride.
Absolutely ego death’d into shame all the way to wooden spoon.
Leo rules ego, pride, performing, flashy, leadership so trying to regain their ‘nah we cool still’ vibes without actually doing the work on those foundations will show up that flakey mask and the identity can’t hold if their is nothing for it to stick to.
Another spoon for your collection sirs.
But quick to get themselves looking all suave and cool again back they go to ask Father for some pineapples to convince this really cool guy that everyone loves, to say that we his bro.
Perfectionist People Pleasers learn no lessons.
Saturn in Virgo
September 2 2007 - October 30 2009
Restriction and discipline related to service, details, descernment, criticial thinking.
Cool guy Judd on board we zoomed all the way in and made sure that we kept the details of what people loved to look at immaculate. Micromanging all the little bits to maintain full control of what people were seeing. Making sure the shiniest players and pieces were perfect and ready for display
Heres the thing, Big Daddy Saturn is not about short cuts, especially in Virgo. You skip over an important brick and don’t back track he will come and knock the damn tower down because he knows you’re better then that.
Saturn in Libra
October 30 2009 - October 6th 2012
Restriction and discipline related to realtionships, balance, justice, people pleasing.
So we’re out there keeping the people damn pleased! Maintain that perfect exterior so no one can see the imperfections, so no one can tell us they dont like us. But of course, eventually big Daddy Saturn came and knocked down that perfect looking tower with incredible ease rolling his eyes.
Those old cigar smoking boys reacted quickly, as always, grabbing one of the lower less cool boys yelling - we found him, he ruined it and don’t worry we told him he can’t sit with us anymore AND we got this other guy who heaps of people talk about as being even more cool then that ruiner we just got rid of.
Annnnnnd we had to lose some friends who were getting a bit sick of all the bullshitting around. We want trusting stable relationships with boundaries and justice - not quick blame stories and a quick flip.
This of course kicked off the final chapter of an even greater 15year story of the karmic ancestry of the Carlton football coming to dissolution but thats another story for another day.
Saturn in Scorpio
October 6 2012- December 24 2014
Restriction, discipline themes are shared resources, investments, betrayal, power and control.
Scorpio also rules hidden agendas, psychological fuckery and secrets.
After not investing in Ratten for the way cooler master Malthouse in the hopes they would be able to skip to the end, the old boys old boy ended up being too much of cranky old dbag stuck in 1970 and lost control when some of the guys thought he was ok and some of them thought he was the worst. Didnt’ invest in a good foundation, betrayed someone they had committed to and now no one trusted anyone.
Daddy Saturn remains unimpressed.
Saturn in Sagittarius
December 24, 2014- December 20, 2017
Restriction and discipline in growth, expansion, truth, freedom.
This Daddy Saturn is ruthless. This is scorched earth Daddyif you piss him off.
(most of you born late 1984-late 1988 know what I mean)
So scorched earth it was. Malthouse this time gets held up as the obvious problem and they bring in the Silvagni curse (Gemini) and Bolt-dog (Aries).
Bring in a Gemini and they will manipulate their way into succeeding at any plan that set their mind to (so you had better hope their mind is set to a team mode not to ego ) And with his fancy cigar in hand he went about his sly Gemini plans, probably getting fired up by Bolt-Dog who sits at the end of the Aries season so has the cbf of a Taurus who finds out someone else is getting paid the same amount for doing less work.
The Daddy Saturn Rules of skipping Steps and Impatience
Saturn in Capricorn
Dec 20, 2017 - Mar 22, 2020
Discipline, restriction, in foundational security, hard work and labour that earns pride and strength.
Trying to get responsible with where the money was going, they spend on some new boys with skills they could surely wave a magic wand at to get them looking shiny and distracting for the audience, I mean fans, I mean supporters.
This Daddy Saturn doesn’t have a lot of room for wiggling around his rules. He assumes you have dedication, long serving practice and does not have a nurturing bone in his body. So of course there was some struggle for the little babes that had to be called up to war before they were ready, everyone had cracked it at the Uncle Mick coming in on the beers and being too aggressive, and this was all that was left.
And so we had to make someone responsible, thats what Daddy Saturn demands.
So B-Dog and his Aries Taurus ways was next up to the front of the class.
It was him. Don’t worry though, we caught him.
Saturn in Aquarius
March 22, 2020- March 8, 2023
Discipline and restriction through team, community, friends, networks, collective alignment, objective thinking, future technologies.
Sooo the next false prophet DT came in with a style incompatible with Big Daddy Saturns discipline settings and the scattered crew of lost boys got more disenchated.
Saturn in Aquarius needs you to value how the individual puzzle piece fits into the whole puzzle, so of course this failed as well.
No foundation, still skipping steps and not following the Daddy Saturn Rules in the spirit of the times.
Covid lock downs destroyed all hope of community collective alignment lifting the team, and as Saturn is a ruler of Aquarius, this was the cold starkness of games being played with the restriction of the community.
Don’t worry Baggers, we are ashamed and will get to the bottom of it. You can take that to the bank.
DT gets shafted and we move into the Daddy Voss era.
This aligned with a powerfully destructive eclipse cycle bringing murky water to the surface to disrupt power structures.
But thats a video I already made which you can find on Youtube.
the dissolution of the illusion so the we can feel the wound
Saturn in Pisces
March 8, 2023 - May 25 2025
Discipline & restriction through dissolution of delusion, healing, sacrifice and surrender.
Pisces is the final boss, its the integration of the Daddy Saturn Lessons into your blood stream. It’s the release of the boundaries that hold you to those lessons because they’ve become part of you and you no longer need the walls to support them.
The false illusion of the surface level success Carlton had teased its supporters with for years reached it’s height in 2023 when supporters dared to hold their breath in hope after Daddy Voss seemed to help with the mental and emotional connection and vulnerabilities to end the 10 year finals drought, with an absolutely mind shattering 9 game streak.
It seemed that Daddy Voss had managed to lock in, to do some hard internal work with the team, and had somehow managed to avoid the front and centre blame game after his first year as coach didn’t see him holding up a flag.
Had he built the foundations this cycle demanded of Carlton over the last 30 years.
THE OVERLAP
Heres the thing about these cycles.
They don’t cut off , they over lap, one dissolves as the over appears.
The first warning of the end of this cycle came May 2025 (the 24th to be exact).
On that day we were asked two questions by Daddy Saturn.
1.What are we building next?
2. What are you willing to watch dissolve as your new build appears?
This was practice, because as much as it can feel like the energy of this existence has you up against a wall with a hot fire poker to your eye sometimes , we truly get nudged before we get forced. It is up to us to pay attention.
On this day Carlton played a miserable game that Daddy Voss describes as one where the panic got the better of them.
Now I won’t get into the details of the GWS game in Round 11 (11!!)
Connection across the game was not there, he said. The boundaries between ‘I’ and ‘WE’ was still there and he notes that they need to be more in the ‘WE’
But he was hopeful they were building foundation still.
From July 13- August 31
We were in review of those two months and we were found wanting of one CHRIS DAVIES - poached from Adelaide to bring his Scorpio detective skills to get into the murky water and Graham Wright moved in to the CEO chair much earlier then anticipated.
(How strange that a Gemini would talk his way into success of a plan he was focused on??)
From September 1- November 27
We were doing a final review of the last 3 - 30 years - this is the internal work - the review of the emotional boundaries the internal spiritual restructuring.
The List was audited.
JSOS, TDK, Durdin, Curnow, Cincotta, Fantasia, Binns, White, Lemmey OUT.
Hayward, Florent, Ainsworth, Chesser, Reidy IN.
November 27 - February 14th
We tried again, the forward motion now that we had seen everything that seemed obvious over the last 6 months.
He we finalised this last 30 yr cycle?
Had the lessons been learned?
Had the changes been made?
Had we dissolved the cigar smoking old boys and absorbed the wisdom from the traumatising 30 years to make next cycle to be less tumultuous and more filled with joy and success.
No, we had not.
So Gemini Tornado of Change Graham and Chris bringing up the Scorpio murky waters leads all Daddy Voss’s support crew to the bus out of town.
Worth noting that this is when the Gemini Tornado spotted Josh - for the VFL of course, not as some sort of long game back up in case anything sudden needed to happen in the coaching department.
February 14th 2026
Saturn ingressed into Aries for the next 3 years beginning the first part of the greater 30 year story.
February 17th 2026
We opened a new story on the destiny map about how the individual authentic expression has a place in the collective puzzle.
February 21st 2026
We had a conjunction of Saturn and Neptune in Aries solidifying the structure of the new. An aspect we have not seen for around 9000 years.
25th February 2026
It’s only a practice match they will say forever and a day, but that was the first time Carlton stepped out to play on the other side of the new cycle.
Hayward kicked the first goal.
Jagga & Dean win peoples hearts.
Elijah shows upppp in the third quarter.
“Elijah Hollands continues to do no wrong this pre-season”
Walsh gives the old one two to score.
and Chesser kicked his first goal.
“The Blues willingness to share the Sherrin was evident”
They record 100 more disposals and +26 on the tackle count against the cats.
So why didn’t we come out of the gates firing for longer.
Why the devastating crawl toward apathy through a burning field of rage.
Well that’d be Uranus,
and some lingering shadows from the cigar smoking old boys club.
But that too is a story for another day.
We’ve still got some I’s to dot and some T’s to cross but the dissolving is almost complete. We are almost completely in the new - no shadow puppet masters holding the strings.
The August 29 Lunar Eclipse in Pisces is the closing ceremony!
Which grounds in its final form February 20 2027.
Saturn is a hard ass Daddy. He is demanding.
But he is demanding for our own good. For our growth.
Saturn is the planet the furtherest planet we can see with our naked eye.
He is the boundary.
He is the punisher.
But he is also the reward.
